tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post1083445615678597975..comments2023-10-03T06:18:27.828-05:00Comments on The Aardvark's PLUMBLINE: Never knew forgiveness contained high fructose corn syrup.The Aardvarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11425052822588090155noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-27737183256916439482011-12-16T21:52:13.591-06:002011-12-16T21:52:13.591-06:00G-I-T-B, the point here is personal, individual fo...G-I-T-B, the point here is personal, individual forgiveness for trespasses suffered. The idea of a nation effectively praying against an enemy nation (God as WMD?)is foreign to the scriptures. George Carlin is less than reliable as an expositor.<br /><br />(Ain't I a STINKER?)<br /><br />@Michael: When the comments on Vox's post about the death of uber-atheist Christopher Hitchens of The Aardvarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11425052822588090155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-42037811411174249522011-12-16T13:51:09.103-06:002011-12-16T13:51:09.103-06:00I've always had a problem with the idea of God...I've always had a problem with the idea of God as "personal revenge weapon". Even a casual reading of the Bible would seem to suggest that the Almighty would prefer all of Humanity to move closer together into a community of harmony.Michael Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11808166630399508232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-51120313742897311322011-12-16T06:57:53.149-06:002011-12-16T06:57:53.149-06:00"America prays for 'God' to destroy i..."America prays for 'God' to destroy it's enemies. Meantime, America's enemies pray for 'God' to destroy it...Somebody's gonna be disappointed. Somebody's wasting their ****in' time! Gee, could that possibly be...hmmm...EVERYONE!?" - George Carlin.TheWayfarerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15074292938877766871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-47414726485878893302011-12-14T21:02:32.512-06:002011-12-14T21:02:32.512-06:00At least he doesn't have too much citron....
...At least he doesn't have too much citron....<br /><br />Doom, Calvin's doctrine of Predestination is a definite case of overthinking the gag. Paul writes:<br /><br />"For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers."<br /><br />This is not teaching that God said "I like Mike; he's The Aardvarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11425052822588090155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-9161889448767436592011-12-14T19:43:28.487-06:002011-12-14T19:43:28.487-06:00But a readable fruitcake. Far more than some peop...But a readable fruitcake. Far more than some people I can mention who actually get paid to offer their opinion to the sheep.<br /><br />Yeah, Lucifer and Mary could've simply said "no". I mean, did Lucifer actually think he had a chance with this revolt thing? But, on the other hand, all of this was arranged by God. It's sort of like being nominated for a Hugo. Just being Michael Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11808166630399508232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-77282323644952004462011-12-14T15:10:27.360-06:002011-12-14T15:10:27.360-06:00Then again I am a fruitcake. :pThen again I am a fruitcake. :pDoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392444624210801173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-24466195298012453962011-12-14T15:10:09.035-06:002011-12-14T15:10:09.035-06:00No, makes perfect sense as much as that is possibl...No, makes perfect sense as much as that is possible. As for Judas, I still think he would have been fine if he had just... dropped to his knees and sought forgiveness. And, yes, he did God's will. I just wish he could have seen that. Lucifer fits here likewise. If he could just turn around (if another fallen angel would step into his former shoes).<br /><br />Predestination is a weird Doomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392444624210801173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-84242318311499823632011-12-14T14:50:24.921-06:002011-12-14T14:50:24.921-06:00Don't know if this will help, but Dave Gardner...Don't know if this will help, but Dave Gardner once said: "Love your Enemy and drive them nuts!"<br /><br />Keep in mind that a good portion of an attack against you is geared (perhaps unconsciously) to provoke some sort of reaction. Forgiveness usually short-circuits what is humanly expected.<br /><br />I know that things have happened in my life which should, by rights, have keptMichael Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11808166630399508232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-58407272509486818382011-12-14T13:56:22.659-06:002011-12-14T13:56:22.659-06:00You guys are talking about a third of what landed ...You guys are talking about a third of what landed me in a confession booth. There is no way to understand. No, I am not saying that is the path for all, only, with a terribly powerful call from God, but with a lot of foot-dragging and doubts to be overcome, many questions. That is where that epic 15 year struggle ended. What I could answer seemed Catholic, what I couldn't answer was a Doomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392444624210801173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-56309458811008410712011-12-14T10:51:14.670-06:002011-12-14T10:51:14.670-06:00First forgiveness, then trust. I love it!First forgiveness, then trust. I love it!Michael Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11808166630399508232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-3825058507123893772011-12-14T09:29:40.578-06:002011-12-14T09:29:40.578-06:00"there's no guarantee that I'm suppos..."there's no guarantee that I'm supposed to Get It."<br /><br />That reminds me of "behold, I show you a mystery..." The Reformation crowd often present what resembles a "Gospel for Spock", one that can be reasonably discussed over drinks at get-togethers. One of the most freeing things I have come to is the fact that I am also not called to wrestle atheists The Aardvarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11425052822588090155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-85759503216387311492011-12-13T21:45:32.027-06:002011-12-13T21:45:32.027-06:00Throughout my life with the Lutheran Church I kept...Throughout my life with the Lutheran Church I kept coming face to face with Philippians 4:7 --- "And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus".<br /><br />Over the years I would come to interpret this to mean that, in regards to the way God moves, there's no guarantee that I'm supposed to Get It. I'm just Michael Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11808166630399508232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-12011414023551249792011-12-12T22:10:19.815-06:002011-12-12T22:10:19.815-06:00The image of forgiveness in my mind is NOT wishing...The image of forgiveness in my mind is NOT wishing one who trespasses against me to be found dangling by a slender thread over the sulfurous Pit.<br /><br />As you say, that does little to mollify temporal consequences.<br /><br />Our forgiveness is conditional to how we forgive, that much is certain. I am thinking that "forgiveness" without concomitant repentance on the trespasser'The Aardvarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11425052822588090155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6299612.post-79336760327223026612011-12-12T21:28:11.653-06:002011-12-12T21:28:11.653-06:00The notion of forgiveness has me tied in knots at ...The notion of forgiveness has me tied in knots at times as well. Good to see I am not the only one.<br /><br />I for one, believe wholeheartedly in forgiveness. The requirement, much as in the prayer you quote, is that it be asked. Now, I can't know if someone who does me wrong and apologizes, begging forgiveness, is sincere or not. That is God's job. So I must offer forgiveness. Doomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392444624210801173noreply@blogger.com